When it comes to the world of political interviews, there are some names that you just can’t ignore. You have Joe Rogan, the man whose podcast has turned into a platform so massive it might just have its own gravitational pull, and then there’s Kamala Harris, the Vice President whose interviews sometimes feel like scripted performances. Recently, our beloved Rogan decided to keep his distance from a potential podcast episode with Harris. The reason? Apparently, she’s got a laundry list of demands that would make even the most seasoned Hollywood starlet raise an eyebrow.

First off, have you heard about this little interview deal? Harris’s team wanted Rogan to hop on a flight to her location because, apparently, a trip to Austin is too much for her. She wanted the whole shebang to be contained to an hour—an hour! As if he could just whip up an insightful conversation about policy, politics, and who knows what else in just 60 minutes. It’s like asking a chef to whip up a gourmet meal in the time it takes to microwave a burrito. Not happening. Joe mentioned he believes the best way to do it is in his studio, where things can flow naturally. But nah, Kamala’s team couldn’t be bothered with that detail.

And while it’s a bummer that this highly anticipated chat didn’t come together, you’ve got to wonder what’s really behind this tight control. Is she really that afraid of a longer conversation? After all, it’s not like Rogan is known for pushing hardball questions—unless you count trying to figure out the deeper meanings of a psychedelic experience. But who knows? Maybe she doesn’t want to risk a three-hour deep dive in front of an audience that’s likely more in tune with reality than she is.

Oh, and let’s not forget the timing here. Recently, Donald Trump popped in for a three-hour session with Rogan and snagged a whopping 37 million views. Maybe Harris’s campaign thinks that diving into the Rogan pool could head straight for the shallow end rather than the deep, thoughtful waters she and her team envision. Did someone in her camp think they could turn a Joe Rogan episode into a maxed-out Instagram post instead? Or perhaps they’re still trying to navigate that complex terrain of being relatable while maintaining their scripted nature.

Let’s face it, folks. It can be pretty tough to strike a balance between authenticity and the political machine. Harris has been known to go off the rails on her backstory—remember when she claimed to be the ultimate hip-hop enthusiast while plucking at her “I listened to Tupac in college” harp? Yeah, sometimes reality just doesn’t line up with the narrative. It’s kind of hard to project a genuine connection when it feels like every answer is rehearsed like it’s a line for a soap opera.

In true Rogan fashion, he expressed hope that maybe—just maybe—she’d ease up on the crazy demands in the future. Until then, it looks like we’re all just going to have to sit back, pop some popcorn, and enjoy watching this political charade unfold from the sidelines. Harris might just be missing out on an opportunity to be seen as a flesh-and-blood human being rather than an over-engineered political product. But hey, who needs an hour of genuine discussion when you’ve got a carefully controlled, scheduled Q&A at your fingertips? That’s one way to keep the audience guessing, I suppose!